SIMPLY FOCUS Podcast

SFP 44 – Episode 44: How to learn to have effective conversations with Sara Smock Jordan, Ph.D., LMFT

Simply Focus Podcast – Episode #44

Hosted by: Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat | Intro: Bibiana Czerny & Ken Brooks | Music: www.bensound.com 

SFP 44 - Episode 44: How to learn to have effective conversations with Sara Smock Jordan

by Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat | Simply Focus Podcast | 35:17

“When they start watching themselves over and over on the same segment of the tape, they notice those little things that they are doing. And they said this and the client said this and they said this in response.“

 

“I think the work with microanalysis and the research that we have generated is to more quickly get people to the point where they understand it’s about dialogue, it’s about a conversation, these are the elements or ingredients.“ 

 

“Helping them identify those key moments in the session or behavioral changes in the session, I think that takes some training. It takes experience to wach things over and over and to notice, something is different there, something shifted, what happened? And then to look at what immediately preceded that, I think is very helpful in education as well as our training setting.”  
Sara Smock Jordan, Ph.D., LMFT

Show Notes

In today’s episode, we talk with Sara Smock Jordan, Ph.D., LMFT, Associate Professor, Program Director of Marriage and Family Therapy, and Graduate Coordinator at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas about

  • what fascinated her about Solution Focus initially and fascinates her today,
  • what fascinates her with microanalysis of face-to-face dialogue and how she started to work with Janet Bavelas,
  • how to capture Solution Focus in an observable way,
  • her research project about positive and negative content choices,
  • their analysis of the miracle question and her hopes for that research,
  • teaching Solution Focus and how she lets her students analyze their own work moment by moment with microanalysis of their recorded conversations,
  • what differences she noticed with her students since she uses microanalysis in her teaching,
  • the importance of giving feedback of observable behavior,
  • her learnings when teaching Solution Focus with microanalysis,
  • how educators could benefit from microanalysis of face-to-face dialogue,
  • the importance of providing and spreading the evidence for Solution Focus.
  • The Challenge of the week: Record a conversation about your preferred future and look at it in the future. (See the full details at 32:04)

 

Join the conversation

Friendpower is stronger than willpower. So, let’s inspire each other! Share your ideas and thoughts on what inspired you about our conversation with Sara and what differences this makes for you in your everyday life. Share as much detail as possible. Your story might be the one making a vital difference for someone else. Your thoughts and ideas matter and might encourage others to keep on going their SF journey. Share this podcast episode with your friends, clients or colleagues who you think might be inspired by this conversation. It could give them some practical ideas on how to apply Solution Focus in their daily life.

 

Thank you!

Thank you for listening to our podcast. You are awesome! That you listen to our podcast makes a huge difference for us. Please let us know and get in touch with us: Comment below or send us a message and tell us what difference our podcast series makes for you. And please share our podcast with others that might benefit from it and give us an honest rating at iTunes. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each and every single one. You really support our show with that as this will make it more likely that other people will find the SIMPLY FOCUS podcast and benefit.

Be part of it!

Do you like the SIMPLY FOCUS Podcast? Then help Elfie and Dominik spread the word! Donate for the SIMPLY FOCUS Podcast!

Processing ...
Subscribe to

SIMPLY FOCUS Podcast: The Good Life Approach - Your weekly podcast with the little extra Solution Focus for your daily life!

Or subscribe with your favorite app by using the address below

Listen on Google Play Music

3 Comments

  1. Franchesca Fraire

    This was a wonderfully inspiring podcast! I am taking the challenge to use microanalysis to improve my knowledge and practice of solution-focused communication and therapy! Thank you for this fantastic resource.

    Reply

Submit a Comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Listen to more Simply Focus Podcast episodes:

SFP 73 – A Genuine Alternative: Differences Between Solution Focus and Problem Solving with Rayya Ghul

SFP 73 – A Genuine Alternative: Differences Between Solution Focus and Problem Solving with Rayya Ghul

SFP 72 – A Unique Perspective: Seeing an Elephant with a Rhino Horn with John Wheeler

SFP 72 – A Unique Perspective: Seeing an Elephant with a Rhino Horn with John Wheeler

SFP 71 –  Facilitating Change With Teams: John Brooker About Collaborating and the DNA of Solution Focus

SFP 71 – Facilitating Change With Teams: John Brooker About Collaborating and the DNA of Solution Focus

SFP 70 – What is your URP? Helping Small Businesses and Charities to Grow with Andrew Gibson

SFP 70 – What is your URP? Helping Small Businesses and Charities to Grow with Andrew Gibson

SFP 69 – Mutually Influenced: A Talk about the History of Solution Focus with Jonas Wells

SFP 69 – Mutually Influenced: A Talk about the History of Solution Focus with Jonas Wells

SFP 68 – Inspiring the Next Generation: Unlearning and Unteaching Solution-Focused Practice with Dr. Biba Rebolj

SFP 68 – Inspiring the Next Generation: Unlearning and Unteaching Solution-Focused Practice with Dr. Biba Rebolj

SFP 67 – Building on What Works: A Different Kind of Conversation in School Counseling with Erin Cusanno

SFP 67 – Building on What Works: A Different Kind of Conversation in School Counseling with Erin Cusanno

SFP 66 – Towards Collectivising Solution-Focused Practice: Into the Community with Hope and the Ordinary in Action with Guy Shennan

SFP 66 – Towards Collectivising Solution-Focused Practice: Into the Community with Hope and the Ordinary in Action with Guy Shennan

SFP 65 – Nothing special about it – From Mental Health to End of Life and Grief Counseling with Joel K. Simon

SFP 65 – Nothing special about it – From Mental Health to End of Life and Grief Counseling with Joel K. Simon

SFP 64 – Applying Systemic Structural Constellations SySt® and Solution Focus with Ute Habenicht and Norbert Wandl

SFP 64 – Applying Systemic Structural Constellations SySt® and Solution Focus with Ute Habenicht and Norbert Wandl

SFP 63 – The Flip Side of Failing: Exploring Greatness with Sarah McVanel

SFP 63 – The Flip Side of Failing: Exploring Greatness with Sarah McVanel

SFP 62 – Connecting People: How do you do it? with Kati Hankovszky

SFP 62 – Connecting People: How do you do it? with Kati Hankovszky

SFP 61 – Crossing Paths: Solution Focused Practices and Community Building in Slovakia with Andrea Schovancová and Marek Koreň

SFP 61 – Crossing Paths: Solution Focused Practices and Community Building in Slovakia with Andrea Schovancová and Marek Koreň

SFP 60 – In Interaction: Debunking Myths of Communication with Jennifer Gerwing and Sara Healing

SFP 60 – In Interaction: Debunking Myths of Communication with Jennifer Gerwing and Sara Healing

SFP 59 – Supporting communication choices: How to use Solution Focused ideas in university teaching with Dr. David Weber

SFP 59 – Supporting communication choices: How to use Solution Focused ideas in university teaching with Dr. David Weber

SFP 58 – Celebrating the SFWorldDay: The Three Questions for a Good Life with Sébastien Vernieuwe and members of the Swiss Network for Solution Focused Work (NLA)

SFP 58 – Celebrating the SFWorldDay: The Three Questions for a Good Life with Sébastien Vernieuwe and members of the Swiss Network for Solution Focused Work (NLA)

SFP 57 – Our Perception matters: How to be minutely curious about clients being at their best with Dr. Adam Froerer

SFP 57 – Our Perception matters: How to be minutely curious about clients being at their best with Dr. Adam Froerer

SFP 56 – Don’t assume, ask: A unique conversation about common factors, respect, and keeping clients at the center with Prof. John Murphy

SFP 56 – Don’t assume, ask: A unique conversation about common factors, respect, and keeping clients at the center with Prof. John Murphy

SFP 55 – Practice-Based Evidence: Looking at what is effective in what we do with Prof. Frank Thomas

SFP 55 – Practice-Based Evidence: Looking at what is effective in what we do with Prof. Frank Thomas

SFP 54 – Wellness factor Solution Focus: A conversation about SF supervision with Marcella Stark

SFP 54 – Wellness factor Solution Focus: A conversation about SF supervision with Marcella Stark

SFP 53 – Solution-Focused Therapy with Children and Adolescents: Creative and Play-Based Approaches with Becky Taylor

SFP 53 – Solution-Focused Therapy with Children and Adolescents: Creative and Play-Based Approaches with Becky Taylor

SFP 52 – Happy Birthday Simply Focus Podcast: A meaningful conversation about our journey with John Murphy

SFP 52 – Happy Birthday Simply Focus Podcast: A meaningful conversation about our journey with John Murphy

SFP 51 – Putting differences to work: The Solution Focused Counseling Program at TCU with Becky Taylor, Frank Thomas, Marcella Stark and three of their PH.D. students

SFP 51 – Putting differences to work: The Solution Focused Counseling Program at TCU with Becky Taylor, Frank Thomas, Marcella Stark and three of their PH.D. students

SFP 50 – Being out there with Solution Focus: A hopeful perspective for the medical sector and sexual minorities with Benjamin Finlayson

SFP 50 – Being out there with Solution Focus: A hopeful perspective for the medical sector and sexual minorities with Benjamin Finlayson

SFP 49 – Living on the streets: A conversation about connection, humanity and the importance of community with Stacy Nelson

SFP 49 – Living on the streets: A conversation about connection, humanity and the importance of community with Stacy Nelson

SFP 48 – 19 Voices: Learnings and Inspirations from the SFU Conference in Taos

SFP 48 – 19 Voices: Learnings and Inspirations from the SFU Conference in Taos

SFP 47 – Solution Focused Recipes: From Trauma to Everyday Life with Yvonne Dolan

SFP 47 – Solution Focused Recipes: From Trauma to Everyday Life with Yvonne Dolan

SFP 46 – Solution Focus for every-body with Mark Mitchell

SFP 46 – Solution Focus for every-body with Mark Mitchell

SFP 45 – How to decide: A Solution Focused approach to making better decisions with Ellen Quick

SFP 45 – How to decide: A Solution Focused approach to making better decisions with Ellen Quick

SFP 44 – How to learn to have effective conversations with Sara Smock Jordan

SFP 44 – How to learn to have effective conversations with Sara Smock Jordan

SFP 43 – Beyond Goals, Beyond Habits: 5 Questions for your Reflections

SFP 43 – Beyond Goals, Beyond Habits: 5 Questions for your Reflections

SFP 42 – Diabetes Prevention: Kat & Gary Barclay working online with Solution Focus

SFP 42 – Diabetes Prevention: Kat & Gary Barclay working online with Solution Focus

SFP 41 – Solution Focus is an Evidence-Based Intervention: The Impact of Research for Solution Focus with Johnny S. Kim

SFP 41 – Solution Focus is an Evidence-Based Intervention: The Impact of Research for Solution Focus with Johnny S. Kim

SFP 40 – Systems Thinking: Dr. Thorana Nelson about Solution Focused Brief Therapy with Families

SFP 40 – Systems Thinking: Dr. Thorana Nelson about Solution Focused Brief Therapy with Families

SFP 39 – Creating Ripples: 7 questions every leader should ask with Simon Lee

SFP 39 – Creating Ripples: 7 questions every leader should ask with Simon Lee

SFP 38 – Exceptional Sessions: Animal-Assisted Solution Focused Brief Therapy & More with Teri Pichot

SFP 38 – Exceptional Sessions: Animal-Assisted Solution Focused Brief Therapy & More with Teri Pichot

SFP 37 – Training Solution Focus: Training Trainers with Brenda Zalter-Minden and Heather Fiske

SFP 37 – Training Solution Focus: Training Trainers with Brenda Zalter-Minden and Heather Fiske

SFP 36 – Deliberate Practice: Reflecting Solution Focused Development with Scott D. Miller

SFP 36 – Deliberate Practice: Reflecting Solution Focused Development with Scott D. Miller

SFP 35 – Observing Solution Focus: A conversation with Gale Miller about his time at BFTC

SFP 35 – Observing Solution Focus: A conversation with Gale Miller about his time at BFTC

SFP 34 – Back to the roots: A conversation about the beginning of Solution Focus with Eve Lipchik

SFP 34 – Back to the roots: A conversation about the beginning of Solution Focus with Eve Lipchik

SFP 33 – Surfing the waves: Sinking into the joy with Angela Knox

SFP 33 – Surfing the waves: Sinking into the joy with Angela Knox

SFP 32 – Small steps count: A conversation about SF parenting, SF in Japan and more with Keiko Yoneyama

SFP 32 – Small steps count: A conversation about SF parenting, SF in Japan and more with Keiko Yoneyama

SFP 31 – Fascination Solution Focus

SFP 31 – Fascination Solution Focus

SFP 30 – SF Leadership: Everyday interactions that make a difference with Dominik Godat

SFP 30 – SF Leadership: Everyday interactions that make a difference with Dominik Godat

SFP 29 – Words arise out of Silence: A Poetic Conversation with Dvorah Simon

SFP 29 – Words arise out of Silence: A Poetic Conversation with Dvorah Simon

SFP 28 – In the Land of Possibilities with Bill O’Hanlon

SFP 28 – In the Land of Possibilities with Bill O’Hanlon

SFP 27 – Hope in Action: A Conversation with Heather Fiske about Solution Focused Suicide Prevention

SFP 27 – Hope in Action: A Conversation with Heather Fiske about Solution Focused Suicide Prevention

SFP 26 – Celebrating Half a Year SIMPLY FOCUS Podcast with That Reminds Me Of The Following Story by Hannes Couvreur

SFP 26 – Celebrating Half a Year SIMPLY FOCUS Podcast with That Reminds Me Of The Following Story by Hannes Couvreur

SFP 25 – Seeing Opportunities – Pull the Golden Ribbon: Interview with Brigitte Lavoie

SFP 25 – Seeing Opportunities – Pull the Golden Ribbon: Interview with Brigitte Lavoie

SFP 24 – Being in Love with Love: Interview with Elliott Connie

SFP 24 – Being in Love with Love: Interview with Elliott Connie

SFP 23 – What directions do you choose in your conversations? – A face-to-face dialogue with Dr. Peter de Jong

SFP 23 – What directions do you choose in your conversations? – A face-to-face dialogue with Dr. Peter de Jong

SFP 22 – Energized: Interview with Bob Faw about energizing ourselves and others

SFP 22 – Energized: Interview with Bob Faw about energizing ourselves and others

SFP 21 – Living in Sunday Right Away: Interview with Laura Cole about her first three weeks with SF

SFP 21 – Living in Sunday Right Away: Interview with Laura Cole about her first three weeks with SF

SFP 20 – Frog or Forever Recognize Other’s Greatness: Interview with Brenda Zalter-Minden

SFP 20 – Frog or Forever Recognize Other’s Greatness: Interview with Brenda Zalter-Minden

SFP 19 – At the Round Table with Alan Kay: Solution Focused Applications

SFP 19 – At the Round Table with Alan Kay: Solution Focused Applications

SFP 18 – Learning together: Teaching Solution Focus at Brieffest with Bo Yon Koh and Haesun Moon

SFP 18 – Learning together: Teaching Solution Focus at Brieffest with Bo Yon Koh and Haesun Moon

SFP 17 – In Tune with Solution Focus: Interview with Dr. Bo Yon Koh

SFP 17 – In Tune with Solution Focus: Interview with Dr. Bo Yon Koh

SFP 16 – Celebrating one year on the road with Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat & Bibiana

SFP 16 – Celebrating one year on the road with Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat & Bibiana

SFP 15 – Inspiring others again: A reflection with Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat

SFP 15 – Inspiring others again: A reflection with Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat

SFP 14 – Inspiring others: A reflection with Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat

SFP 14 – Inspiring others: A reflection with Elfie Czerny & Dominik Godat

SFP 13 – Solution Focus at Work: Interview with Victor Nelson

SFP 13 – Solution Focus at Work: Interview with Victor Nelson

SFP 12 – Interactional Relationships: Interview with Dr. Thorana Nelson

SFP 12 – Interactional Relationships: Interview with Dr. Thorana Nelson

SFP 11 – Language of Hope: Interview with Haesun Moon

SFP 11 – Language of Hope: Interview with Haesun Moon

SFP 10 – Seeing Interaction: Interview with Janet Beavin Bavelas

SFP 10 – Seeing Interaction: Interview with Janet Beavin Bavelas

SFP 9 – Persistent in being curios: Interview with Dr. Stephen Langer about Solution Focused Brief Therapy

SFP 9 – Persistent in being curios: Interview with Dr. Stephen Langer about Solution Focused Brief Therapy

SFP 8 – Let’s play…: Interview with Pamela K. King

SFP 8 – Let’s play…: Interview with Pamela K. King

SFP 7 – Effective Leadership with Solution Focus: Interview with Monica Rotner

SFP 7 – Effective Leadership with Solution Focus: Interview with Monica Rotner

SFP 6 – Solution Focused Listening

SFP 6 – Solution Focused Listening

SFP 5 – The GREAT relationship: Interview with Jonathan D. Sherman

SFP 5 – The GREAT relationship: Interview with Jonathan D. Sherman

SFP 4 – The art of asking great Solution Focused questions

SFP 4 – The art of asking great Solution Focused questions

SFP 3 – Solution Focus makes a difference

SFP 3 – Solution Focus makes a difference

SFP 2 – Amplifying useful change in an ever changing world

SFP 2 – Amplifying useful change in an ever changing world

SFP 1 – The Simply Focus Podcast

SFP 1 – The Simply Focus Podcast

Pin It on Pinterest

Share This